Abdul Wahid here gives a short critique of the latest ‘anti-terror’ laws and it doesn’t take a legal mastermind to see how these new laws are going to be used to ratchet up the pressure on the Muslims of the UK.
Here is a link to a news article on the new laws, I think most of us seeing new laws being proposed nearly every year turn off but these latest ones include some new and frightening powers for the government to use.
“This is a classic example of the ‘injustice’ in the legal system.
Firstly, enacting a law that allow sentences viewed as ‘too lenient’ to be extended by the appeal court for serious and emotive crimes such as murder, rape and the ‘most serious terrorist offences’. (What does that mean? Murder is murder, and implying a political motive in some cases but not others means you have just politicised the law).
Secondly, extending the scope of that law to apply to much more vacuous and politicised acts – such as ‘ supporting extremist organisations, encouraging acts of terror’. What constitutes ‘support’ and ‘encouragement’ in terms of legal thresholds? Who as yet has defined ‘extremist’? Without robust definitions all laws become arbitrary. This classic sign of a politicised legal system, with parallel streams of justice for those who think differently.
This reminds me of security states in other parts of the world, where people could be serving a sentence of a political offence, and they are retried or resentenced years later.
It concerns me that some criminals will get longer sentences than other just by the tabloid press or 24/7 news media whipping up populist sentiment after a trial, whilst current laws prevent media interference in trials.
Of course all secular laws change with the wind. Secularists think of this as a strength, because blatantly unjust laws of the past are now repealed.
But Islam’s strength is that its legal code is not easy to manipulate. It is not public opinion that we seek in justice, but Allah’s Opinion on any given matter.
Speaking about the Islamic Shariah at the trial of Warren Hastings, the political philosopher Edmund Burke spoke of the ‘Mahomedan law, which is binding upon all, from the crowned head to the meanest subject; a law interwoven with a system of the wisest, the most learned, and most enlightened jurisprudence that perhaps ever existed in the world’.
Bukhari narrates from our mother ‘Aisha, may Allah be please with her that Usamah ibn Zaid (may Allah be please with him and his father) approached the Prophet ﷺ on behalf of a woman (from a noble, rich family in her tribe who had committed theft). The Prophet ﷺ said, “The people before you were destroyed because they used to inflict the legal punishments on the poor and forgive the rich. By Him in Whose Hand my soul is! If Fatima (the beloved daughter of the Prophet ﷺ) did that (i.e. stole), I would cut off her hand.” i.e. You do not apply laws selectively – either on the poor and not the rich; nor on the unpopular but let off the popular.”
“Remember how I keep saying that if not for recent enhancement of unfair anti-terrorism laws: e.g. prevent and schedule 7, Asians would never see structural racism like we Afro-Caribs do?
This stop and search video that has gone viral is proof of it. Sucked he had that done to him, but hey!!! Some of us have grown up having that done to us every day about two or three times a day and it wasn’t done as gently or politely either.
Remember that for the last three or four decades WE have been complaining about the same thing and got told “if you didn’t commit so much crime they wouldn’t be stopping you” and ” well if you’ve done nothing wrong you’ve got nothing to worry about”… welcome to the club guys.. welcome to the club. Racial profiling by racist institutions is not fun, even for ‘model minorities’.”
~ Nabil Abdul Rashid
“So now that the storm is over, I wanted to say this: Each time a terror attack happens, there are only two groups of people who tend to claim responsibility/ownership: ISIS and affiliates & MCB and affiliates.”
~ Abuz Zubair
I find it interesting that those who jumping on the bandwagon around counter-extremism policies for the far-right, have absolutely no record of critiquing structural racism against black communities in the U.K. You ignored years of black people being systematically harmed, and all of a sudden feel that you have pathologised the issue through concerns around vulnerability and ‘radicalisation’.
Where is your critique of the structural nature of this decades old phenomenon? As the actor Jessie Williams said at his BET award speech:
“If you have a critique for the resistance, for our resistance, then you better have an established record of critique of our oppression. If you have no interest, if you have no interest in equal rights for black people then do not make suggestions to those who do. Sit down.”
~ Asim Qureshi
“It is somewhat easy to selectively “enjoin in good” these days by handing out roses and samosas whilst wearing apologetic sloganised t-shirts. But to consistently “forbid the evil” in public is arguably more difficult, and requires a certain level of conviction, courage and wisdom, especially at such heightened times.
Theological and political differences aside, I have much respect for the dying minority of brothers who still hold dawah stalls and fearlessly call the people to Islam, whilst delivering stern reminders to Muslims.
I’m not saying other styles and approaches don’t work in softening the hearts of the people, I’m sure they do. But the point here is *consistency* and *uncompromising*.”
~ Muhammad Dilwar Hussain
“If I told you that Christian missionaries were going to your child’s school and aggressively proselytizing to them and pressuring them to leave Islam and become Christians, wouldn’t you be alarmed? Wouldn’t you be angry and concerned?
What if I told you these missionaries weren’t at your child’s school one day but were there every single day, just constantly pressuring your kid to accept Christianity and leave his Islamic faith behind. Would you keep your child at that school?
The reality is, virtually all schools in the Western world (and many in the Muslim world as well) are indoctrinating your children, but the religion being imposed is not Christianity. It is secular liberal materialism.
If you have ever wondered why our youth are leaving Islam in droves, there is a clear reason for it. It’s not some freak phenomenon that no one can control. It has a clear cause. We have to do something, anything, to protect our kids and counteract any damage that has already been done.”
~ Daniel Haqiqatjou
No, I have not gone insane or over to the dark side.
Yes I know Ben Shapiro is the darling scion of the alt-right, acolyte of Andrew Breitbart, anti-Islam campaigner, apologist for continued American oppression of BME’s at home in his country, ardent Zionist-Jew and a crusader for the continued American occupation and exploitation of the rest of the planet but…
From watching him I’ve learnt a great deal and it’s sometimes from our opponents we can learn new tactics, new arguments and I see nothing wrong in respecting those who oppose so we can better meet them in debates and defeat them.
For those at the sharp end there is always an arms race when we come to dialogue with non-Muslims and the arguments and techniques used by Ben Shapiro are top range latest American missile tech.
Now when it comes to debates from the right some of this stuff will be hitting you soon if you are involved in Da’wah work at a higher-up public level. Learn it, learn to counter it. That way you’ll Insha’Allah avoid being done over in your own discussions if someone hits you with this later on.
I’m now going to post a link… unless you’ve got a strong stomach and a strong sense of emaan don’t click it, but if like me you want to learn where the enemies of Islam and basic human decency are coming from next then have a listen.
His advise is only useful for when you are actually debating someone, not for general Da’wah conversations. As Allah states in the Quran:
Invite to the way of your Lord with wisdom and good instruction, and argue with them in a way that is best. Indeed, your Lord is most knowing of who has strayed from His way, and He is most knowing of who is [rightly] guided.
Quran Translation, Surah An-Nahl, 16:125
OK, not the best application of that verse. But the principle is sound to some degree if you’ll follow my reasoning.
First off in Da’wah we approach people from a point of view of kind words, wisdom, good instruction, being firm with the truth but kind in the delivery, something Shapiro seems incapable of doing. But then when they step up a level and become argumentative we come back at them a different method again and defeat them on that ground whilst not being aggressive or angry.
Shapiro does this part very well, he uses humour to deflect hatred and bring the audience on side, then well reasoned and rehearsed arguments to destroy the arguments of his enemies.
And BTW, he’s right about leftists…
Yes I know they are part of some great ‘progressive alliance’ against the neo-facism which is coming out of western capitals but the idea that the enemy of my enemy is my friend is not true.
They are just as much enemies of Islam as the right, and the hijab and halal meat bans coming out of Europe are just as much a product of these progressive types as they are from the right.
Muslims need to remember Islam is not Socialism, or Liberalism, or even democratic. These are all materialist ideologies different to our deen and we can learn how to combat these ideologies also from looking into their other enemies like the slightly less rabid right wing ideologues like Shapiro who use reason rather than emotion.
Have a listen to some of his other debates also, though sometimes it’s against female / feminist opponents so if you’re a brother reading this just open the link and listen rather than watching the video to make it easier for you to lower your gaze.
This one in particular is excellent (brothers lower your gaze) – Ben Shapiro Destroys Transgenderism And Pro-Abortion Arguments – Youtube Video
I’ve actually used these arguments against transgender / homosexual rights campaigners as well as those who wish to promote abortion as some sort of lifestyle choice rather than callous discarding of a potential human being.
There is a tenancy to look to the left as our allies and this has led to many Muslims being seduced by these arguments which is wrong and will slowly and surely destroy the Muslim community from the inside out just as surely as the right will attempt to destroy us from the outside by more overt oppression.
So there it is, my admiration for Ben Shapiro.
Feel free to agree or disagree, vent your hatred of the man here if you like, I’ll join you but learn from him if you’re in the field of Da’wah because his arguments will be coming to Da’wah table or formal debate near you soon enough.
“The question is not why didn’t the Saudi football team observe the minute silence. More pertinent question is why only western victims get this sort of formal recognition? As for the far greater numbers of victims across Asia and Africa they only get a “Meh”. When was the last time the countless killed in Syria or Burma or CAR got a minute silence? Selective commemoration to match the selective moral outrage.”
~ Uthman Badar
Assalaamu Alaykum Wa Rahmatullahi Wa Barakatuhu,
Facebook has a feature where it will show you your ‘memories’ that is posts from the same date in previous years which can be very interesting to look at in a…
‘yes that was a really important issue / message’
‘what? did I really say / share that? (cringe)’ kinda way.
This post’s graphics and highly detailed report from CAGE definitely falls into the former and not the later. The CAGE Report ‘WE ARE COMPLETELY INDEPENDENT’ (available to download here from CAGE) which some may remember from last year is still extremely relevant today with the so many Imams and leaders in the UK Muslim community trying to give the highly damaging and anti-Islamic Prevent agenda a new lease of life on behalf of the government.
Allahu Alim whether they are doing so because they or their organizations are being funded by Prevent or other government initiatives, or whether it is because they share in the governments beliefs, or whether they are doing so out of fear of being targeted next.
I highly recommend you all read the full report if you have not already or else feel free to distribute the link and pics for others to look at as ending this toxic Prevent agenda is a duty upon us all as is forbidding any munkar in society.
Those among the Children of Israel who disbelieved were cursed by the tongue of Dawood (David) and ‘Eesa (Jesus), son of Maryam (Mary). That was because they disobeyed (Allaah and the Messengers) and were ever transgressing beyond bounds.
They used not to forbid one another from Al-Munkar (wrong, evildoing, sins, polytheism, disbelief) which they committed. Vile indeed was what they used to do.
Quran translation, Surah al-Ma’idah, 5:78-79
The report details how the government has been covertly funding Muslim organizations in the UK in an attempt to subvert the message these organizations give out to the masses of the Muslims.
To make it look like these supposedly impartial community leaders and organizations have come to the conclusion by themselves that they need to help force a change of values upon the Muslims in the UK into something more akin to those held by the disbelieving masses under their attempts to promote ‘British Values.’
If the problem is that extremists promote a distorted version of Islam then why the need to promote British Values and not Islamic ones?
CAGE have produced a high quality academic report showing the links between the Government, media companies, grassroots organizations, all working together secretly on promoting the government’s Prevent agenda.
This blurring of lines between government on the one hand and community / grass roots organizations on the other is dangerous and counter productive strategy which will only make the problems with those with extremist ideas get worse.
It can only decrease trust in all Muslim organizations in our community and further force misguided individuals who may fall into sympathy for Terrorism away from those who should be helping them, not helping themselves to extra government funding in exchange for following a particular line.
As Muslims we need to not only hold the government to account, and demand an end to Prevent and other anti-Muslim policies, but also hold our community leaders including our Imams to account as well.